Comments on: Plurk Milking This Microsoft Thing for All It’s Worth http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/ by John Paczkowski Fri, 25 May 2012 17:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll - It’s not the Microsoft it used to be http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-20452 renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll - It’s not the Microsoft it used to be Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:54:56 +0000 http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/?p=30985#comment-20452 [...] of stealing the look and feel of the MacOS which Microsoft fought to the hilt, with the rather more timid approach they took against Plurk recently when similar concerns [...] [...] of stealing the look and feel of the MacOS which Microsoft fought to the hilt, with the rather more timid approach they took against Plurk recently when similar concerns [...]

]]> By: Hamranhansenhansen http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-20361 Hamranhansenhansen Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:17:30 +0000 http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/?p=30985#comment-20361 The vendor is not an issue. It's a Microsoft product. The lead on the project was inside Microsoft, who are a multibillion dollar publicly traded international company. Outsourcing is not a license to steal or an excuse for it. What's next? Windows sucks because of the maintenance people at the Redmond campus?<br><br>Not only that, Microsoft's business model is cloning existing software. They know where the line is. It's a major responsibility of theirs to make sure they aren't simply copying stuff. They are always under time pressure because their competitors original versions of each product are already out there when Microsoft begins building something. When Compaq cloned the IBM PC BIOS, the only engineers who could work on it were ones that had already sworn depositions saying they had never seen the inside of the IBM product and never would.<br><br>And Microsoft has stolen code many times before. Both AVI and WMA are proprietary Microsoft formats that are no longer owned by Microsoft because courts looked under the hood and found Apple QuickTime and Fraunhofer MP3 hiding in there, respectively. The vendor is not an issue. It's a Microsoft product. The lead on the project was inside Microsoft, who are a multibillion dollar publicly traded international company. Outsourcing is not a license to steal or an excuse for it. What's next? Windows sucks because of the maintenance people at the Redmond campus?

Not only that, Microsoft's business model is cloning existing software. They know where the line is. It's a major responsibility of theirs to make sure they aren't simply copying stuff. They are always under time pressure because their competitors original versions of each product are already out there when Microsoft begins building something. When Compaq cloned the IBM PC BIOS, the only engineers who could work on it were ones that had already sworn depositions saying they had never seen the inside of the IBM product and never would.

And Microsoft has stolen code many times before. Both AVI and WMA are proprietary Microsoft formats that are no longer owned by Microsoft because courts looked under the hood and found Apple QuickTime and Fraunhofer MP3 hiding in there, respectively.

]]> By: Hamranhansenhansen http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-20329 Hamranhansenhansen Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:30:38 +0000 http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/?p=30985#comment-20329 Bob. Bob.

]]> By: ilamont http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-20306 ilamont Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:33:34 +0000 http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/?p=30985#comment-20306 Clippy? Clippy?

]]> By: theghostofnetscape http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-20304 theghostofnetscape Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:24:04 +0000 http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/?p=30985#comment-20304 John -- do you seriously think that when Microsoft contracts a small, outside company to reverse engineer then re-build the product of an existing player in a field where they're trying to bust in, then they put the entire Microsoft machinery in effect to beat the crap out of that existing player -- when this happens, do you think we should be focusing on the sub-contractor, or Microsoft itself? Do you think stockholders or investors are running away from the incumbent because a sub-contractor is entering the market, or because Microsoft is entering the market? Microsoft enters every market late, doing products quick and dirty and throwing a ton of marketing money to weaken their opponents before they even ship a product. They got caught hiring someone who took a short cut, and they didn't exercise their oversight, probably hoping they could get away with it. Don't blame the victim here. I wish more little companies which have been screwed by MediocreSoft over the years (there are plenty of them, as well as plenty of big companies screwed by 'em, too, had the guts to defend themselves and were in an environment where they could. No matter how much people criticize this corporate monolith, it doesn't do justice to its legacy of unfair competition, bad market choices, and shoddy execution. On behalf of every employee at companies they've hijacked, and every consumer who's slogged through one of their shoddy product releases, they deserve every slam they get, and then some. John — do you seriously think that when Microsoft contracts a small, outside company to reverse engineer then re-build the product of an existing player in a field where they're trying to bust in, then they put the entire Microsoft machinery in effect to beat the crap out of that existing player — when this happens, do you think we should be focusing on the sub-contractor, or Microsoft itself? Do you think stockholders or investors are running away from the incumbent because a sub-contractor is entering the market, or because Microsoft is entering the market? Microsoft enters every market late, doing products quick and dirty and throwing a ton of marketing money to weaken their opponents before they even ship a product. They got caught hiring someone who took a short cut, and they didn't exercise their oversight, probably hoping they could get away with it. Don't blame the victim here. I wish more little companies which have been screwed by MediocreSoft over the years (there are plenty of them, as well as plenty of big companies screwed by 'em, too, had the guts to defend themselves and were in an environment where they could. No matter how much people criticize this corporate monolith, it doesn't do justice to its legacy of unfair competition, bad market choices, and shoddy execution. On behalf of every employee at companies they've hijacked, and every consumer who's slogged through one of their shoddy product releases, they deserve every slam they get, and then some.

]]> By: theghostofnetscape http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-20303 theghostofnetscape Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:23:46 +0000 http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/?p=30985#comment-20303 John -- do you seriously think that when Microsoft contracts a small, outside company to reverse engineer then re-build the product of an existing player in a field where they're trying to bust in, then they put the entire Microsoft machinery in effect to beat the crap out of that existing player -- when this happens, do you think we should be focusing on the sub-contractor, or Microsoft itself? Do you think stockholders or investors are running away from the incumbent because a sub-contractor is entering the market, or because Microsoft is entering the market? Microsoft enters every market late, doing products quick and dirty and throwing a ton of marketing money to weaken their opponents before they even ship a product. They got caught hiring someone who took a short cut, and they didn't exercise their oversight, probably hoping they could get away with it. Don't blame the victim here. I wish more little companies which have been screwed by MediocreSoft over the years (there are plenty of them, as well as plenty of big companies screwed by 'em, too, had the guts to defend themselves and were in an environment where they could. No matter how much people criticize this corporate monolith, it doesn't do justice to its legacy of unfair competition, bad market choices, and shoddy execution. On behalf of every employee at companies they've hijacked, and every consumer who's slogged through one of their shoddy product releases, they deserve every slam they get, and then some. John — do you seriously think that when Microsoft contracts a small, outside company to reverse engineer then re-build the product of an existing player in a field where they're trying to bust in, then they put the entire Microsoft machinery in effect to beat the crap out of that existing player — when this happens, do you think we should be focusing on the sub-contractor, or Microsoft itself? Do you think stockholders or investors are running away from the incumbent because a sub-contractor is entering the market, or because Microsoft is entering the market? Microsoft enters every market late, doing products quick and dirty and throwing a ton of marketing money to weaken their opponents before they even ship a product. They got caught hiring someone who took a short cut, and they didn't exercise their oversight, probably hoping they could get away with it. Don't blame the victim here. I wish more little companies which have been screwed by MediocreSoft over the years (there are plenty of them, as well as plenty of big companies screwed by 'em, too, had the guts to defend themselves and were in an environment where they could. No matter how much people criticize this corporate monolith, it doesn't do justice to its legacy of unfair competition, bad market choices, and shoddy execution. On behalf of every employee at companies they've hijacked, and every consumer who's slogged through one of their shoddy product releases, they deserve every slam they get, and then some.

]]> By: Anonymous http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20091217/plurk-milking-this-microsoft-thing-for-all-it%e2%80%99s-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-70515 Anonymous Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:20:00 +0000 http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/?p=30985#comment-70515 Is it an Indian outsource company by any chance that Microsoft contracted? Why can't Microsoft name that vendor? Is it an Indian outsource company by any chance that Microsoft contracted? Why can’t Microsoft name that vendor?

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