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The Iphone Spot» Blog Archive » Speculation On Apple Tablet Costs — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:39:27 +0000

[...] Last fall, Kumar correctly stated that Google would release its own custom-built handset. The Nexus One was officially unveiled by Google Tuesday. However, Kumar was also criticized after he noted that iPhone sales in China were “disappointing” before the device was even on sale. [...]

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Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:07:37 +0000

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By: Alex Ross

Alex Ross — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:25:09 +0000

Not sure what Kumar’s deal is. Back in 2007, he claimed the iPhone would fail, saying “The market is already saturated with popular [phones] that are virtually free to consumers.” His article used some weak Harry Potter metaphor as the iPhone as a “squib”. Just Google him and you’ll see…

Not sure what his deal is. Troll? Fishing for traffic? Either way he’s probably best just ignored…

Cheers,
Alex

By: Fred Hamranhansenhansen

Fred Hamranhansenhansen — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:19:43 +0000

There is no excuse for Kumar’s faulty analysis.

Even if you are looking at pre-orders, you have to factor in that gray market iPhones are on sale today, and for the past 2 years, so there is no need to pre-order an iPhone if you want one. Some have said the official iPhone (without Wi-Fi) will have its most fierce competition from unofficial iPhones (with Wi-Fi) that have a 2 year head start. It’s not hard to imagine that getting the phone in your hand today is a pretty compelling reason to go gray market instead of pre-order.

In other words, you have to tell me how many gray market units were sold alongside those pre-orders for an official phone to even begin to measure demand.

Also, if you want to measure iPhone demand in China, don’t you have to mention that during the time the original iPhone was on sale in the US only, Apple had to establish first a per-customer limit on total iPhones you could buy, and then they went to a no-cash policy, because people were coming into Apple Stores with $50,000 in cash to buy 100 iPhones and shipping them all to China and Apple could not keep them in stock for US users. Some estimates say that over 10% of all original iPhones were resold in China.

The anti-Apple bias today reminds me of the late 1980′s when everyone who was working for a computer maker other than Apple would happily tell you the GUI was a passing fad, a toy, or only useful for desktop publishing. The mouse was PURE CRAZINESS in the 1980′s according to analysts. That is why we’ve heard that business users don’t need Web browsers and other such beauties.

What the iPhone competition should do is stop paying analysts to knock the iPhone down, and start hiring MASSIVE NUMBERS OF SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS and adding sophisticated software to their phones as fast as they can. RIM is on the right track when they bought a WebKit browser maker. They should be hiring away PC software developers, enterprise software developers, Unix software developers. It’s clear that smartphones have to be every bit as sophisticated in their software as PC’s if they are to surf the same Web, do the same email, etc.

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Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:03:34 +0000

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Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:56:46 +0000

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By: Dariusz Zarebinski

Dariusz Zarebinski — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:21:26 +0000

I have been living in China for past 9 years and let me tell you, iPhone was available in China from the day one it appeared in US. Though it was not through the official channels, it was available just about in any electronics market around any major city in Beijing. Of course it had to be hacked in order to use it one China Mobile network, but that was done on spot if not already hacked before putting it on display. If the sales would appear disappointing, then perhaps because it is not a novelty to Chinese as it was 2 years ago. A short walk to any Starbuck in Beijing or Shanghai and you will notice that most people there are well equipped with the latest Apple gadgets whether available through oficial channels or not.