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		<title>By: how much of the buy out was because of precentral? - PreCentral Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>how much of the buy out was because of precentral? - PreCentral Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  check it out, these analysts actually made recommendations based on a poll here in these forums.  Palm Pre: Sales Great, Share Price Inflated (A Bit) &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD  so weather we have an impact on crappy analysts is not up for debate, weather we have an impact on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  check it out, these analysts actually made recommendations based on a poll here in these forums.  Palm Pre: Sales Great, Share Price Inflated (A Bit) | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD  so weather we have an impact on crappy analysts is not up for debate, weather we have an impact on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Failure of the Survey: iPhone 3GS and Pre return/exchange rates compared &#124; TouchMyApps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Failure of the Survey: iPhone 3GS and Pre return/exchange rates compared &#124; TouchMyApps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the survey which was referenced by an &#8216;analyst&#8217; was conducted from an impromptu poll at pre central, a Palm Pre dedicated forum. While that can [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Palm Pre: Deutsche Bank Analyst Weighs In With Positive Report &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palm Pre: Deutsche Bank Analyst Weighs In With Positive Report &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Palm Pre aren’t slowing; nor is the device suffering from unusually high return rates. And all this incessant hand-wringing over the Pre’s performance at market is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Palm Pre aren’t slowing; nor is the device suffering from unusually high return rates. And all this incessant hand-wringing over the Pre’s performance at market is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pre Sales May Be Slowing. Yes? Nooooooooo! &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pre Sales May Be Slowing. Yes? Nooooooooo! &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some decidedly unscientific poll data, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin Dede suggests the device is plagued by build-quality issues and a high exchange/return rate, potentially 40 percent. Abramsky says its between two and three [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some decidedly unscientific poll data, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin Dede suggests the device is plagued by build-quality issues and a high exchange/return rate, potentially 40 percent. Abramsky says its between two and three [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Well Jim Cramer Just Trashed the Pre Citing This Forum's Poll - Page 2 - PreCentral Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Well Jim Cramer Just Trashed the Pre Citing This Forum's Poll - Page 2 - PreCentral Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  You tell me. I have no idea myself    The story on the analyst was released on Monday here:  Palm Pre: Sales Great, Share Price Inflated (A Bit) &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD  All Things Digital is a division of the Wall Street Journal.  Now have a look at what happened to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  You tell me. I have no idea myself    The story on the analyst was released on Monday here:  Palm Pre: Sales Great, Share Price Inflated (A Bit) | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD  All Things Digital is a division of the Wall Street Journal.  Now have a look at what happened to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Pre She&#8217;s Coming.com &#171; The Pre</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pre She&#8217;s Coming.com &#171; The Pre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] report was detailed in a story by John Paczkowski, managing editor for the Wall Street Journal&#8217;s All Things Digital [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Hartman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael Long:

Comparing the sales of the Pre to iPhone 3G sales makes little, if any, sense. There was never &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; chance that the Pre&#039;s sales would match the iPhone 3G&#039;s sales.  That&#039;s a completely artificial expectation, given that the iPhone 3G was the successor to the massively popular original iPhone.  The Pre, in contrast, is a &lt;i&gt;brand new&lt;/i&gt; product, with no legacy behind it.  Not to mention the fact that the Pre had nothing even &lt;i&gt;close&lt;/i&gt; to the ad blitz that was behind the iPhone 3G (or even the original iPhone). Comparing the Pre to the original iPhone would probably make more sense, but even there, comparing apples to apples is difficult, because Palm is in a very different financial position than Apple was when they released the iPhone.  


The lack of apps (relative to the iPhone) is similarly unsurprising, given the fact that the iPhone App Store has had such a long head start.  But with the release of the SDK, the number of Pre apps should increase rapidly.  (At least, it should increase rapidly in the homebrew arena.  There&#039;s no telling how long it&#039;ll take the App Catolog to introduce new apps.  The barrier to getting the App Catalog fully up and running seems to be the question of just what form compiled apps are going to take on the Pre.  At present, the apps are all on the Pre in plain text form, which isn&#039;t going to be acceptable once people start &lt;i&gt;selling&lt;/i&gt; their wares. And of course, there&#039;s still the issue of native access to the hardware that has to be worked out.  (I actually see this as a relatively small problem, considering the Linux underpinnings of WebOS.  There are plenty of mature programming languages that can be used to access the hardware.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Long:</p>
<p>Comparing the sales of the Pre to iPhone 3G sales makes little, if any, sense. There was never <i>any</i> chance that the Pre&#8217;s sales would match the iPhone 3G&#8217;s sales.  That&#8217;s a completely artificial expectation, given that the iPhone 3G was the successor to the massively popular original iPhone.  The Pre, in contrast, is a <i>brand new</i> product, with no legacy behind it.  Not to mention the fact that the Pre had nothing even <i>close</i> to the ad blitz that was behind the iPhone 3G (or even the original iPhone). Comparing the Pre to the original iPhone would probably make more sense, but even there, comparing apples to apples is difficult, because Palm is in a very different financial position than Apple was when they released the iPhone.  </p>
<p>The lack of apps (relative to the iPhone) is similarly unsurprising, given the fact that the iPhone App Store has had such a long head start.  But with the release of the SDK, the number of Pre apps should increase rapidly.  (At least, it should increase rapidly in the homebrew arena.  There&#8217;s no telling how long it&#8217;ll take the App Catolog to introduce new apps.  The barrier to getting the App Catalog fully up and running seems to be the question of just what form compiled apps are going to take on the Pre.  At present, the apps are all on the Pre in plain text form, which isn&#8217;t going to be acceptable once people start <i>selling</i> their wares. And of course, there&#8217;s still the issue of native access to the hardware that has to be worked out.  (I actually see this as a relatively small problem, considering the Linux underpinnings of WebOS.  There are plenty of mature programming languages that can be used to access the hardware.)</p>
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		<title>By: Palm gets its Mojo working •&#8230;. Analyst claims Pre Return Rates are&#8230;. &#124; India News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palm gets its Mojo working •&#8230;. Analyst claims Pre Return Rates are&#8230;. &#124; India News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a research note issued Monday, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin DRead more at http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090720/palm-valuation-not-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mobile News - Mobile Industry Buzz!! &#187; mocoNews Quick Hits 7.20.09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mobile News - Mobile Industry Buzz!! &#187; mocoNews Quick Hits 7.20.09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#187;&#160; The Palm (NSDQ: PALM) Pre brought the ailing company back to life. But will engineering problems that result in returns (about 1 in 3 phones) lay the company low again? [All Things D] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#187;&nbsp; The Palm (NSDQ: PALM) Pre brought the ailing company back to life. But will engineering problems that result in returns (about 1 in 3 phones) lay the company low again? [All Things D] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: allAfrica.com: Nigeria: UN Official Tasks Nations&#8230;. Report Gives Sobering&#8230;. &#124; India News</title>
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		<dc:creator>allAfrica.com: Nigeria: UN Official Tasks Nations&#8230;. Report Gives Sobering&#8230;. &#124; India News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a research note issued Monday, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin DRead more at http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090720/palm-valuation-not-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#124; India News</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#124; India News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a research note issued Monday, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin DRead more at http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090720/palm-valuation-not-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of Pre and Blackberry devices are paid for by employers. iPhone is retail. Although Blackberry has made inroads in retail. It&#039;s not about quantity of Apps, it&#039;s about the quality of the Apps. Can I do business with a little fun as opposed to just fun.
I don&#039;t know why you can&#039;t find stats that show that. Maybe your not trying hard enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of Pre and Blackberry devices are paid for by employers. iPhone is retail. Although Blackberry has made inroads in retail. It&#8217;s not about quantity of Apps, it&#8217;s about the quality of the Apps. Can I do business with a little fun as opposed to just fun.<br />
I don&#8217;t know why you can&#8217;t find stats that show that. Maybe your not trying hard enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Analyst Claims Palm Pre Return Rates Are High. We&#8217;re Not so Sure &#124; PalmPrePeople.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Analyst Claims Palm Pre Return Rates Are High. We&#8217;re Not so Sure &#124; PalmPrePeople.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] analyst named Kevin Dede at Jesup and Lamont has given Palm shares a &quot;Sell&quot; rating based on what he argues are unusually high return rates.&#160; It comes as questions continue to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Palm seeing 40% Palm Pre return&#8230;. Palm gets its Mojo working •&#8230;. &#124; India News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palm seeing 40% Palm Pre return&#8230;. Palm gets its Mojo working •&#8230;. &#124; India News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a research note issued Monday, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin DRead more at http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090720/palm-valuation-not-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/     gets, its, Mojo, Palm, Pre, Texas, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a research note issued Monday, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin DRead more at <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090720/palm-valuation-not-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/" rel="nofollow">http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.....-up-to-be/</a>     gets, its, Mojo, Palm, Pre, Texas, [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bose SoundLink Wireless Music System streams&#8230;. Bose introduces SoundLink wireless bookshelf speaker;&#8230;. &#124; India News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a research note issued Monday, Jesup and Lamont analyst Kevin DRead more at http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090720/palm-valuation-not-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/     Bose, dock, its, Mojo, SoundLink, Texas, [...]</description>
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