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		<title>By: Google responds to privacy critics with Google dashboard :: The Future of the Internet &#8212; And How to Stop It</title>
		<link>http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090708/google-chrome-os/comment-page-1/#comment-17641</link>
		<dc:creator>Google responds to privacy critics with Google dashboard :: The Future of the Internet &#8212; And How to Stop It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] use several Google products; my rough count is that I use about 15. Privacy advocates have been understandably concerned about having so much information stored by one [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Dashboard Offers &#34;Unprecedented&#34; View of Stuff We Already Knew &#171; Tech7.Net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Dashboard Offers &#34;Unprecedented&#34; View of Stuff We Already Knew &#171; Tech7.Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dashboard Offers &quot;Unprecedented&quot; View of Stuff We Already Knew  Privacy advocates carping about the vast amounts of data Google collects about our Internet use can rest a bit easier today now that they know what the search company knows about them. This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Dashboard Offers &#8220;Unprecedented&#8221; View of Stuff We Already Knew &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Dashboard Offers &#8220;Unprecedented&#8221; View of Stuff We Already Knew &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] advocates carping about the vast amounts of data Google collects about our Internet use can rest a bit easier today now that they know what the search company knows about them. This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Polished Chrome: The Top Comments, Thoughts, and Fallout Concerning Google’s New OS – Free Line 7/15/09 &#124; Small Business Software&#124;News, Reviews and Resources!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polished Chrome: The Top Comments, Thoughts, and Fallout Concerning Google’s New OS – Free Line 7/15/09 &#124; Small Business Software&#124;News, Reviews and Resources!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;[Chrome] is an extraordinary market play. And an unsettling one. For it seeks to place Google, which already collects vast amounts of data about our Internet use, at the very center of our information experience.&#8221; &#8211; John Paczkowski, All Things Digital [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;[Chrome] is an extraordinary market play. And an unsettling one. For it seeks to place Google, which already collects vast amounts of data about our Internet use, at the very center of our information experience.&#8221; &#8211; John Paczkowski, All Things Digital [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Polished Chrome: The Top Comments, Thoughts, and Fallout Concerning Google’s New OS – Free Line 7/15/09 &#124; IM &#38; SEO -Software for Internet Marketers!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polished Chrome: The Top Comments, Thoughts, and Fallout Concerning Google’s New OS – Free Line 7/15/09 &#124; IM &#38; SEO -Software for Internet Marketers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;[Chrome] is an extraordinary market play. And an unsettling one. For it seeks to place Google, which already collects vast amounts of data about our Internet use, at the very center of our information experience.&#8221; &#8211; John Paczkowski, All Things Digital [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;[Chrome] is an extraordinary market play. And an unsettling one. For it seeks to place Google, which already collects vast amounts of data about our Internet use, at the very center of our information experience.&#8221; &#8211; John Paczkowski, All Things Digital [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hidden Distance &#187; Randnotiz: FSJ on Chrome OS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hidden Distance &#187; Randnotiz: FSJ on Chrome OS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chrome OS, Huh? Will It Be Based on a Google Analytics Kernel?Wieso Google mir langsam suspekt ist&#8230; nur zum überfliegen. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Hamranhansenhansen</title>
		<link>http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090708/google-chrome-os/comment-page-1/#comment-10134</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hamranhansenhansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The privacy implications are,
&gt; of course, horrendous

As horrendous as your Windows PC being part of a botnet without your knowledge? Your entire system controlled by organized crime? Aside from black hats you also have Microsoft, a convicted felon with a very bad privacy record. The idea that anyone who is using Windows right now has privacy is absurd.

With Google OS, at least you have a chance that only Google has your data, and is using it according to specified terms.

And each browser window in Chrome is sandboxed, and there is no native app layer where viruses and malware can run.

It seems quite possible to me that a typical everyday Windows user who moves to Chrome OS could dramatically improve their security and privacy. Not just because Chrome has those features, but also because Windows lacks them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The privacy implications are,<br />
&gt; of course, horrendous</p>
<p>As horrendous as your Windows PC being part of a botnet without your knowledge? Your entire system controlled by organized crime? Aside from black hats you also have Microsoft, a convicted felon with a very bad privacy record. The idea that anyone who is using Windows right now has privacy is absurd.</p>
<p>With Google OS, at least you have a chance that only Google has your data, and is using it according to specified terms.</p>
<p>And each browser window in Chrome is sandboxed, and there is no native app layer where viruses and malware can run.</p>
<p>It seems quite possible to me that a typical everyday Windows user who moves to Chrome OS could dramatically improve their security and privacy. Not just because Chrome has those features, but also because Windows lacks them.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Announces Google Apps Killer Technical Preview [Digital Daily] &#124; UpOff.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft Announces Google Apps Killer Technical Preview [Digital Daily] &#124; UpOff.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] right now, particularly from Google (GOOG), which first challenged Office two years ago and is now taking on Windows as well. &#8220;The fact that Microsoft is developing it at all is a response to Google,&#8221; said [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] right now, particularly from Google (GOOG), which first challenged Office two years ago and is now taking on Windows as well. &#8220;The fact that Microsoft is developing it at all is a response to Google,&#8221; said [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Announces Google Apps Killer Technical Preview &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
		<link>http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090708/google-chrome-os/comment-page-1/#comment-10114</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft Announces Google Apps Killer Technical Preview &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] right now &#8212; particularly from Google, which first challenged Office two years ago and is now taking on Windows as well. &#8220;The fact that Microsoft is developing it at all is a response to Google,&#8221; said [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mac Beach</title>
		<link>http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090708/google-chrome-os/comment-page-1/#comment-10052</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John: Nope, I won&#039;t be looking through the code base.  But I know a whole lot of people who are more privacy fanatics than  am will be.  All it takes is for one of them to see questionable connects back to the mother ship for it to get big attention.  A MS employee leaking such info would be subject to termination, and the sort of people they hire there aren&#039;t likely to risk that.

Jon, John: yes, a lot of finagling can be had with the Open Source terminology.  The most open system imaginable can be subverted by the user downloading and installing a malicious browser plug-in or some such.

I&#039;m not saying that Google is the ultimate in trustworthiness, but I trust them further than a company that has a lock on business and government desktop computing and that will be true until there is real competition in that space once again.

First step (which is all this amounts to) is for companies to no longer being cowed into denying competing with Microsoft for fear of retribution.  I&#039;m tired of waiting for the Justice Department to do their job (but note who they are actually picking on at this point).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Nope, I won&#8217;t be looking through the code base.  But I know a whole lot of people who are more privacy fanatics than  am will be.  All it takes is for one of them to see questionable connects back to the mother ship for it to get big attention.  A MS employee leaking such info would be subject to termination, and the sort of people they hire there aren&#8217;t likely to risk that.</p>
<p>Jon, John: yes, a lot of finagling can be had with the Open Source terminology.  The most open system imaginable can be subverted by the user downloading and installing a malicious browser plug-in or some such.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that Google is the ultimate in trustworthiness, but I trust them further than a company that has a lock on business and government desktop computing and that will be true until there is real competition in that space once again.</p>
<p>First step (which is all this amounts to) is for companies to no longer being cowed into denying competing with Microsoft for fear of retribution.  I&#8217;m tired of waiting for the Justice Department to do their job (but note who they are actually picking on at this point).</p>
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		<title>By: Google OS Reactions: The Positive, Negative &#38; The Paranoid &#124; Search Engine Optimization &#38; Internet Marketing (SEO &#38; SEM) Blog</title>
		<link>http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090708/google-chrome-os/comment-page-1/#comment-10007</link>
		<dc:creator>Google OS Reactions: The Positive, Negative &#38; The Paranoid &#124; Search Engine Optimization &#38; Internet Marketing (SEO &#38; SEM) Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] – Digital Daily [...]</description>
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		<title>By: I never knew &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big GOOG Brother</title>
		<link>http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090708/google-chrome-os/comment-page-1/#comment-9993</link>
		<dc:creator>I never knew &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big GOOG Brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There are already quite a few such wells, including Google Search and Chrome, that profile user interests and surfing habits: Gmail, which gives the company access to our email conversations, and Google Voice, which gives the company access to our spoken ones. Add to this Google Street View and Latitude, a service that tracks the physical location of its users, and mobile and desktop operating systems and, well…that kind of consolidation of Internet-based services around a single dominant company should give us all pause. &#8212;Chrome OS, Huh? Will It Be Based on a Google Analytics Kernel? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There are already quite a few such wells, including Google Search and Chrome, that profile user interests and surfing habits: Gmail, which gives the company access to our email conversations, and Google Voice, which gives the company access to our spoken ones. Add to this Google Street View and Latitude, a service that tracks the physical location of its users, and mobile and desktop operating systems and, well…that kind of consolidation of Internet-based services around a single dominant company should give us all pause. &#8212;Chrome OS, Huh? Will It Be Based on a Google Analytics Kernel? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Фальшивый Стив Джобс о ХромОС &#124; alexmak.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Фальшивый Стив Джобс о ХромОС &#124; alexmak.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Интернете. Почитайте статью Джона Пажковски (John Paczkowski) тут, для примера. Вы знаете, что мы называем IBM “Original Borg” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Интернете. Почитайте статью Джона Пажковски (John Paczkowski) тут, для примера. Вы знаете, что мы называем IBM “Original Borg” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Solo Google nel mio computer &#187; Panorama.it - Hitech e Scienza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solo Google nel mio computer &#187; Panorama.it - Hitech e Scienza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Sono consapevole che tutto questo comporta alcuni rischio per la privacy&#8230;) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon Sidnell</title>
		<link>http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090708/google-chrome-os/comment-page-1/#comment-9947</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Sidnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Arnaldo Pereira

The trouble is that Google are tricky when it comes to using terms like Open Source. For example, Chrome has been built using Open Source technology, but you can&#039;t actually download the source code for Chrome. IIRC, you can download the source code for the V8 JavaScript engine, and for &quot;Chromium&quot; which is the open source codebase which Chrome is based upon.

But Chrome itself is really a closed-source fork of an open source project, a bit like StarOffice compared with OpenOffice.org. There is no way to verify exactly what non-OS code might have made it&#039;s way into the released product.

So I can see how Google could claim that Google OS is based on open source technology, but isn&#039;t itself actually open source as we would typically define it. While we can verify the code of individual components, who knows what is in the final release build that is proprietary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Arnaldo Pereira</p>
<p>The trouble is that Google are tricky when it comes to using terms like Open Source. For example, Chrome has been built using Open Source technology, but you can&#8217;t actually download the source code for Chrome. IIRC, you can download the source code for the V8 JavaScript engine, and for &#8220;Chromium&#8221; which is the open source codebase which Chrome is based upon.</p>
<p>But Chrome itself is really a closed-source fork of an open source project, a bit like StarOffice compared with OpenOffice.org. There is no way to verify exactly what non-OS code might have made it&#8217;s way into the released product.</p>
<p>So I can see how Google could claim that Google OS is based on open source technology, but isn&#8217;t itself actually open source as we would typically define it. While we can verify the code of individual components, who knows what is in the final release build that is proprietary?</p>
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