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		<title>By: No, the Microsoft Browser Ballot Will Not Include an &#8220;I&#8217;m Feeling Lucky&#8221; Option &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>No, the Microsoft Browser Ballot Will Not Include an &#8220;I&#8217;m Feeling Lucky&#8221; Option &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Microsoft to Add Rival Browsers to Windows in Europe &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft to Add Rival Browsers to Windows in Europe &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Windows Update &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Following Anti-Trust In EU Windows 7 Will Ship Without IE - WindowsDailyNews.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windows Update &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Following Anti-Trust In EU Windows 7 Will Ship Without IE - WindowsDailyNews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Paczkowski over at AllThingsD wraps up the EC’s bungling of this situation  Well played, Microsoft. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Microsoft’s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying &#124; Blogging Planet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft’s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying &#124; Blogging Planet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] proposal to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 7 in Europe may put the company in compliance with European law, but it’s not going to lead to better [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Microsoft’s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying [Digital Daily] &#124; UpOff.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft’s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying [Digital Daily] &#124; UpOff.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying [Digital Daily]    June 15th, 2009      Microsoft&#8217;s proposal to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 7 in Europe may put the company in compliance with European law, but it’s not going to lead to better [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tech Whiz Underground &#187; Microsoft’s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tech Whiz Underground &#187; Microsoft’s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying          Microsoft&#8217;s proposal to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 7 in Europe may put the company in compliance with European law, but it’s not going to lead to better [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Microsoft&#8217;s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft&#8217;s Browser Move to Make Windows Even More Annoying &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] proposal to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 7 in Europe may put it in compliance with European law, but it’s not going to lead to better competition in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Answers EC with No IE in Windows 7 &#124; rapid-DEV.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft Answers EC with No IE in Windows 7 &#124; rapid-DEV.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Paczkowski over at AllThingsD wraps up the EC’s bungling of this situation  Well played, Microsoft. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Great Move, EC. Now We Have to Download IE Ourselves… [Digital Daily] - FIMMR - From INTERNET: Moments &#38; Memories is REAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great Move, EC. Now We Have to Download IE Ourselves… [Digital Daily] - FIMMR - From INTERNET: Moments &#38; Memories is REAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Dingler</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dingler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Karlin,
It would be unlikely that the new machine would have no browser at all because the OEM would preinstall all of the modern browsers currently available. 

But, in the very remote event that the OEM would blunder by not pre-installing any browsers, or if Microsoft defiantly prevents the OEM from installing any competing browsers -- which seems to be its track record which the EU knows --, there is no reason for the OEM to not make available at least as a pre-loaded installer of all of the browsers. 

If the OEM does not make it difficult to find, and if the installer is designed for easy usage (e.g., so that the operation is not instead designed to appeal to tinkering geeks), a well-designed installer should pop up a well designed dialogue box saying what to do next like give a hierarchical list of the most compliant browsers, with the best on top. 

•••

Hi John,
As to &quot;But you can’t say that Microsoft didn’t attempt to &#039;restore genuine consumer choice and enable competition on its merits,&#039;&quot; of course it did not and when it appears that it is doing so, it does so piecemeal, reluctantly, and anti-competitively by relying on its predatory monopoly practices to squeeze out better browsers favoring its inferior product. Remember that Explorer is there by default only because MS made it so, not because other browser companies wanted this, so give proper choice; Proper choice is good. It&#039;s democratic and visionary. Anti-choice is anti-democratic and insular and would not be good for American citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Karlin,<br />
It would be unlikely that the new machine would have no browser at all because the OEM would preinstall all of the modern browsers currently available. </p>
<p>But, in the very remote event that the OEM would blunder by not pre-installing any browsers, or if Microsoft defiantly prevents the OEM from installing any competing browsers &#8212; which seems to be its track record which the EU knows &#8211;, there is no reason for the OEM to not make available at least as a pre-loaded installer of all of the browsers. </p>
<p>If the OEM does not make it difficult to find, and if the installer is designed for easy usage (e.g., so that the operation is not instead designed to appeal to tinkering geeks), a well-designed installer should pop up a well designed dialogue box saying what to do next like give a hierarchical list of the most compliant browsers, with the best on top. </p>
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<p>Hi John,<br />
As to &#8220;But you can’t say that Microsoft didn’t attempt to &#8216;restore genuine consumer choice and enable competition on its merits,&#8217;&#8221; of course it did not and when it appears that it is doing so, it does so piecemeal, reluctantly, and anti-competitively by relying on its predatory monopoly practices to squeeze out better browsers favoring its inferior product. Remember that Explorer is there by default only because MS made it so, not because other browser companies wanted this, so give proper choice; Proper choice is good. It&#8217;s democratic and visionary. Anti-choice is anti-democratic and insular and would not be good for American citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Great Move, EC. Now We Have to Download IE Ourselves… [Digital Daily] &#124; LAGAHIT.COM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great Move, EC. Now We Have to Download IE Ourselves… [Digital Daily] &#124; LAGAHIT.COM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Answers EC with No IE in Windows 7 &#124; Google Adsense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft Answers EC with No IE in Windows 7 &#124; Google Adsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Paczkowski over at AllThingsD wraps up the EC’s bungling of this situation  Well played, Microsoft. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Answers EC with No IE in Windows 7 &#124; webmarketingexperts.com.au</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft Answers EC with No IE in Windows 7 &#124; webmarketingexperts.com.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karlin Lillington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karlin Lillington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if there&#039;s no browser on the machine at purchase, how will people download IE? :-)</description>
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		<title>By: TechKive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great Move, EC. Now We Have to Figure Out How to Download IE Ourselves… [Digital Daily]</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechKive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Great Move, EC. Now We Have to Figure Out How to Download IE Ourselves… [Digital Daily]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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