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		<title>By: Appeal Gives Microsoft Chance to Contest i4i Award, Patent Standards &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Appeal Gives Microsoft Chance to Contest i4i Award, Patent Standards &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with i4i. The U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to hear Redmond&#8217;s appeal seeking to overturn a $290 million jury verdict against it for infringing an i4i XML patent in Word 2003 and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: USPTO Upholds i4i Patent in Microsoft Spat &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>USPTO Upholds i4i Patent in Microsoft Spat &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 22:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tough break for Microsoft, which was last year ordered to pay i4i $200 million for doing so. The company&#8217;s only recourse now it seems is to appeal to the Supreme Court, something it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: electriac</title>
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		<dc:creator>electriac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just finished reading copious materials relating to the recent court case between MS and I4I.  It seems to me that claiming rights to something as generic as an ASCII file is a stretch but I am not an authority on computer software patents.  I am familiar with patents of another type though and I can assure you the courts, in their ignorance of the subject matter they were dealing with, made decisions that made no sense what so ever.  I speak of plant patents of which I have some intimate knowledge.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the 1980&#039;s the plant Penstemen digitalis was introduced in the US and was patented under the name Penstemen “Huskers Red”.  This plant is a species plant from SE Asia and there is no difference between the patented plant and the species variety.  If you bought one of these plants it was accompanied with warnings that propagation of the plant was in violation of the patent and you would be liable for prosecution and fines.  In the 1990&#039;s sometime the plant became the perennial of the year and this patent on something that actually belonged to no one, other than mother nature, garnered thousands in royalties.   I do not see how something as generic as a species plant should be allowed a patent.  I have often thought as a test case I should patent Acer sacrum (Sugar Maple) and see if the government is naive enough to allow this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So what does this have to do with MS, I4I, and XML.  XML is after all nothing but data delimited in an ASCII file.  There are many other types of delimited data files like CSV comma delimited data files.   Should the author of comma delimiting be granted a patent.   In fact I myself have created several types of delimited data  ASCII files and many of these have been reused by many people.  Does that mean that I can sue them for using something as generic as an ASCII file.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am no friend of Microsoft but the courts have become a loose cannon making ridiculous judgments based upon insufficient knowledge of the subject matter they are adjudicating and the lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank.  Maybe I should patent the Maple Tree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just finished reading copious materials relating to the recent court case between MS and I4I.  It seems to me that claiming rights to something as generic as an ASCII file is a stretch but I am not an authority on computer software patents.  I am familiar with patents of another type though and I can assure you the courts, in their ignorance of the subject matter they were dealing with, made decisions that made no sense what so ever.  I speak of plant patents of which I have some intimate knowledge.  </p>
<p>In the 1980&#39;s the plant Penstemen digitalis was introduced in the US and was patented under the name Penstemen “Huskers Red”.  This plant is a species plant from SE Asia and there is no difference between the patented plant and the species variety.  If you bought one of these plants it was accompanied with warnings that propagation of the plant was in violation of the patent and you would be liable for prosecution and fines.  In the 1990&#39;s sometime the plant became the perennial of the year and this patent on something that actually belonged to no one, other than mother nature, garnered thousands in royalties.   I do not see how something as generic as a species plant should be allowed a patent.  I have often thought as a test case I should patent Acer sacrum (Sugar Maple) and see if the government is naive enough to allow this. </p>
<p>So what does this have to do with MS, I4I, and XML.  XML is after all nothing but data delimited in an ASCII file.  There are many other types of delimited data files like CSV comma delimited data files.   Should the author of comma delimiting be granted a patent.   In fact I myself have created several types of delimited data  ASCII files and many of these have been reused by many people.  Does that mean that I can sue them for using something as generic as an ASCII file.   </p>
<p>I am no friend of Microsoft but the courts have become a loose cannon making ridiculous judgments based upon insufficient knowledge of the subject matter they are adjudicating and the lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank.  Maybe I should patent the Maple Tree.</p>
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		<title>By: electriac</title>
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		<dc:creator>electriac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just finished reading copious materials relating to the recent court case between MS and I4I.  It seems to me that claiming rights to something as generic as an ASCII file is a stretch but I am not an authority on computer software patents.  I am familiar with patents of another type though and I can assure you the courts, in their ignorance of the subject matter they were dealing with, made decisions that made no sense what so ever.  I speak of plant patents of which I have some intimate knowledge.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the 1980&#039;s the plant Penstemen digitalis was introduced in the US and was patented under the name Penstemen “Huskers Red”.  This plant is a species plant from SE Asia and there is no difference between the patented plant and the species variety.  If you bought one of these plants it was accompanied with warnings that propagation of the plant was in violation of the patent and you would be liable for prosecution and fines.  In the 1990&#039;s sometime the plant became the perennial of the year and this patent on something that actually belonged to no one, other than mother nature, garnered thousands in royalties.   I do not see how something as generic as a species plant should be allowed a patent.  I have often thought as a test case I should patent Acer sacrum (Sugar Maple) and see if the government is naive enough to allow this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So what does this have to do with MS, I4I, and XML.  XML is after all nothing but data delimited in an ASCII file.  There are many other types of delimited data files like CSV comma delimited data files.   Should the author of comma delimiting be granted a patent.   In fact I myself have created several types of delimited data  ASCII files and many of these have been reused by many people.  Does that mean that I can sue them for using something as generic as an ASCII file.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am no friend of Microsoft but the courts have become a loose cannon making ridiculous judgments based upon insufficient knowledge of the subject matter they are adjudicating and the lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank.  Maybe I should patent the Maple Tree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just finished reading copious materials relating to the recent court case between MS and I4I.  It seems to me that claiming rights to something as generic as an ASCII file is a stretch but I am not an authority on computer software patents.  I am familiar with patents of another type though and I can assure you the courts, in their ignorance of the subject matter they were dealing with, made decisions that made no sense what so ever.  I speak of plant patents of which I have some intimate knowledge.  </p>
<p>In the 1980&#39;s the plant Penstemen digitalis was introduced in the US and was patented under the name Penstemen “Huskers Red”.  This plant is a species plant from SE Asia and there is no difference between the patented plant and the species variety.  If you bought one of these plants it was accompanied with warnings that propagation of the plant was in violation of the patent and you would be liable for prosecution and fines.  In the 1990&#39;s sometime the plant became the perennial of the year and this patent on something that actually belonged to no one, other than mother nature, garnered thousands in royalties.   I do not see how something as generic as a species plant should be allowed a patent.  I have often thought as a test case I should patent Acer sacrum (Sugar Maple) and see if the government is naive enough to allow this. </p>
<p>So what does this have to do with MS, I4I, and XML.  XML is after all nothing but data delimited in an ASCII file.  There are many other types of delimited data files like CSV comma delimited data files.   Should the author of comma delimiting be granted a patent.   In fact I myself have created several types of delimited data  ASCII files and many of these have been reused by many people.  Does that mean that I can sue them for using something as generic as an ASCII file.   </p>
<p>I am no friend of Microsoft but the courts have become a loose cannon making ridiculous judgments based upon insufficient knowledge of the subject matter they are adjudicating and the lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank.  Maybe I should patent the Maple Tree.</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy Pandaz &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bing Upholds Microsoft&#8217;s Tradition of Stealing Whatever Designs Interest Them</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy Pandaz &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bing Upholds Microsoft&#8217;s Tradition of Stealing Whatever Designs Interest Them</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently, Microsoft settled a lawsuit over live gaming technology and lost another over XML technology. &#8220;Latest Microsoft Patent Describes Method of Losing Patent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bing Upholds Microsoft&#8217;s Tradition of Stealing Whatever Designs Interest Them &#124; Tech-monkey.info Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bing Upholds Microsoft&#8217;s Tradition of Stealing Whatever Designs Interest Them &#124; Tech-monkey.info Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently, Microsoft settled a lawsuit over live gaming technology and lost another over XML technology. &#8220;Latest Microsoft Patent Describes Method of Losing Patent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Get a Room! The Latest Spat Between Microsoft and the EU &#124; Legal 411 .</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get a Room! The Latest Spat Between Microsoft and the EU &#124; Legal 411 .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to pay Canadian software firm i4i Ltd $200 million in damages for infringing a patent. Click here for the report from the All Things Digital blog. The verdict was the second-largest of the year, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mac Beach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Microsoft also has a defensive patent in place on the use of addition and subtraction.  So if i4i does any arithmetic in their XML handling MS can probably counter sue.

It is of course a very good thing for &quot;innovation&quot; that MS &quot;re-invented&quot; a technique for saving documents rather than use the already existing standard used by Open Office.

I think Microsoft may have also patented the use of &quot;\&quot; as a replacement for &quot;/&quot; in Unix commands.  What would we do without their constant search for new ways of doing things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Microsoft also has a defensive patent in place on the use of addition and subtraction.  So if i4i does any arithmetic in their XML handling MS can probably counter sue.</p>
<p>It is of course a very good thing for &#8220;innovation&#8221; that MS &#8220;re-invented&#8221; a technique for saving documents rather than use the already existing standard used by Open Office.</p>
<p>I think Microsoft may have also patented the use of &#8220;\&#8221; as a replacement for &#8220;/&#8221; in Unix commands.  What would we do without their constant search for new ways of doing things.</p>
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		<title>By: Get a Room! The Latest Spat Between Microsoft and the EU &#124; ESQ BLOG.Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get a Room! The Latest Spat Between Microsoft and the EU &#124; ESQ BLOG.Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to pay Canadian software firm i4i Ltd $200 million in damages for infringing a patent. Click here for the report from the All Things Digital blog. The verdict was the second-largest of the year, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TechKive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Latest Microsoft Patent Describes Method of Losing Patent Infringement Suits [Digital Daily]</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechKive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Latest Microsoft Patent Describes Method of Losing Patent Infringement Suits [Digital Daily]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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