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		<title>By: Tom Budde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Budde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chatterton what are you talking about???  Intels anything cant do anything good with graphics, and their quad cores arent going to be doing graphics.

AMD has had an integrated memory controller for years, which is why their operteron server cpus have dominated the Xeon in so many applications and why AMD powers the worlds fasters supercomputers.  

AMD already has i7 competitors out with the Shanghai cpus for servers and DDR3 versions of the Phenom II X4s for desktops.

Intel isnt coming out with a great video card anytime soon, they will probably end up using AMD graphics cards, for the irony. It seems Intel is trying to limit their competition to their one real competitor at all things x86 computer related. 
  
games arent necessarily coded to be compatable to Nvidia geforce, but Nvidia and AMD have to tweak drivers to best work with the games programming. They use standards, such as directX, direct3d, opengl to make games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chatterton what are you talking about???  Intels anything cant do anything good with graphics, and their quad cores arent going to be doing graphics.</p>
<p>AMD has had an integrated memory controller for years, which is why their operteron server cpus have dominated the Xeon in so many applications and why AMD powers the worlds fasters supercomputers.  </p>
<p>AMD already has i7 competitors out with the Shanghai cpus for servers and DDR3 versions of the Phenom II X4s for desktops.</p>
<p>Intel isnt coming out with a great video card anytime soon, they will probably end up using AMD graphics cards, for the irony. It seems Intel is trying to limit their competition to their one real competitor at all things x86 computer related. </p>
<p>games arent necessarily coded to be compatable to Nvidia geforce, but Nvidia and AMD have to tweak drivers to best work with the games programming. They use standards, such as directX, direct3d, opengl to make games.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chatterton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chatterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading up about the advances in the GPU during recent issues of PC magazines. Currently, Intel has made a comment to graphics manufactures to give the much faster CPU&#039;s a 2nd look, especially in shading technology. I think their argument is the Quad Cores, and especially the Core i7 are better suited to today&#039;s graphics bare knuckled. But if I were Intel, I wouldn&#039;t isolate Nvidia. You&#039;ll be left holding the bag. (Too late.) I&#039;m sure AMD is chomping at the bit and will have a chip comparable to the Core i7 in the near future, not in full performance, but in near performance...such that lower and middle performing graphics cards manufacturers will choose an AMD chip for better profits. Look, AMD knows how to make Quad Cores too, and respectfully fast I might add...they just haven&#039;t added an onboard memory controller - yet. Since 95% of the games are STILL trying to be compatible to the gForce cards currently on the market...anything EXTRA to come out in this slower economy that is cheaper plus faster...is going to clean up all the marbles. It&#039;s simple economics. The bulk of the computer market is in the UNDER $900 range. An expensive vid card isn&#039;t going to cut it in a mainline motherboard, I feel.

If Intel hasn&#039;t started in the middle floors on graphics tech yet, to learn the market, my feelings are they&#039;ll price themselves out of the market even if they come out with a pretty awesome vid card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading up about the advances in the GPU during recent issues of PC magazines. Currently, Intel has made a comment to graphics manufactures to give the much faster CPU&#8217;s a 2nd look, especially in shading technology. I think their argument is the Quad Cores, and especially the Core i7 are better suited to today&#8217;s graphics bare knuckled. But if I were Intel, I wouldn&#8217;t isolate Nvidia. You&#8217;ll be left holding the bag. (Too late.) I&#8217;m sure AMD is chomping at the bit and will have a chip comparable to the Core i7 in the near future, not in full performance, but in near performance&#8230;such that lower and middle performing graphics cards manufacturers will choose an AMD chip for better profits. Look, AMD knows how to make Quad Cores too, and respectfully fast I might add&#8230;they just haven&#8217;t added an onboard memory controller &#8211; yet. Since 95% of the games are STILL trying to be compatible to the gForce cards currently on the market&#8230;anything EXTRA to come out in this slower economy that is cheaper plus faster&#8230;is going to clean up all the marbles. It&#8217;s simple economics. The bulk of the computer market is in the UNDER $900 range. An expensive vid card isn&#8217;t going to cut it in a mainline motherboard, I feel.</p>
<p>If Intel hasn&#8217;t started in the middle floors on graphics tech yet, to learn the market, my feelings are they&#8217;ll price themselves out of the market even if they come out with a pretty awesome vid card.</p>
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		<title>By: 5Words for February 18th, 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;Technologizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>5Words for February 18th, 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;Technologizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Intel and Nvidia&#8217;s legal tussle. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon Bach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Bach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is more about posturing for a rising GPU business than it is about protecting a decaying CPU business.  NVIDIA has little reason to make high end Corei7 chipsets – they already lost out on that business when they licensed SLI to Intel for use in the Intel X58 chipset.  Why use an NVIDIA chipset when you can get SLI on a rock solid Intel chipset?

What this is about is lower end boards with integrated GPUs.  You can see NVIDIA&#039;s direction in their new ION product.  They&#039;re going after entry level products, getting their GPU bundled.  What they want here is to be able to offer a Corei7 platform with integrated GPU, probably in micro-ATX -- something we haven&#039;t yet seen from Intel.  Of course, Intel would rather get this GPU business for themselves, with Larrabee coming in 2010.  If they can keep NVIDIA out of the integrated GPU market for Corei7, they&#039;ll have it all to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is more about posturing for a rising GPU business than it is about protecting a decaying CPU business.  NVIDIA has little reason to make high end Corei7 chipsets – they already lost out on that business when they licensed SLI to Intel for use in the Intel X58 chipset.  Why use an NVIDIA chipset when you can get SLI on a rock solid Intel chipset?</p>
<p>What this is about is lower end boards with integrated GPUs.  You can see NVIDIA&#8217;s direction in their new ION product.  They&#8217;re going after entry level products, getting their GPU bundled.  What they want here is to be able to offer a Corei7 platform with integrated GPU, probably in micro-ATX &#8212; something we haven&#8217;t yet seen from Intel.  Of course, Intel would rather get this GPU business for themselves, with Larrabee coming in 2010.  If they can keep NVIDIA out of the integrated GPU market for Corei7, they&#8217;ll have it all to themselves.</p>
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